Tyler J. Wagner (ابو پاسكال) ([info]giantlaser) wrote,
@ 2004-09-17 14:26:00
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On the kidnapping of idiots
As some of you have heard, two Americans and one Briton were kidnapped from their Al Mansur, Baghdad, home yesterday.  Let me give you some important information about why these men were idiots, and why [info]slownewsday and I are not.


  • They had only one company guard.  When he didn't show up, they had none.

  • Their guard was obviously local (didn't live with them).  Which means he had local loyalties.

  • They had no other Iraqi staff to do things like go outside and turn on the generator.

  • When they did go outside, they didn't secure the immediate street first.

  • At least one of the idiots walked outside unarmed, leaving his submachine gun on the kitchen counter.



Here is what we do different:


  • We have 10 guards on staff at all times.  They live with us.  They are Kurdish, from areas 200-400 km north.  They have no local loyalties at all - no friends, no family, no one to apply pressure here.  While it is always possible they could be compromised, it is far less likely.

  • We have house staff to do all local things we need, like run the generators, shop, fuel the cars, etc.

  • When we leave, the guards sweep the street and secure the immediate area.

  • We are armed at all times.  On foot, with a pistol.  In a car, with an AK-47 as well.

  • We now take two cars with at least 3 guards.  And we've appointed the most experienced and capable guards as our personal ones.



The people who were grabbed are the kind we refer to as "soft targets".  Anybody observing them for a few days could have planned and executed that raid.  Jayme and I are definitely "hard targets".  While attacks are getting more sophisticated here, we're responding in kind.  I feel safer in my Baghdad home than I did living in San Francisco.

Finally, remember that the reason attacks are getting more sophisticated is simple natural selection.  The stupid insurgents are already dead.  The attacks that we see now are the result of 1.5 years of surviving the fight, observing, and poking at the weak points.  While I don't believe we're infallible, I'm confident that my weak points are far harder than the next guy's.



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[info]habibi
2004-09-17 07:14 am UTC (link)
I agree- the first thing I thought when I heard this is that it would never happen to you guys (knocks on wood- inshallah)-

stay well and welcome back-



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[info]z111
2004-09-17 02:17 pm UTC (link)
Yes, I thought the same thing.

Glad you all are keeping safe.

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[info]tlma0204114
2004-09-17 08:17 am UTC (link)
Loud and clear.

Hi, by the way.

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[info]censorydep
2004-09-17 09:25 am UTC (link)
I am not particularly religious, but I pray/wish/think good thoughts/hope that you guys stay "hard targets" and are safe. I think this experience has been, literally, life-changing for you, and I am really glad that you are having it. However, I want it to be anything other than life-ending.

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[info]thermalnoise
2004-09-17 10:29 am UTC (link)
Do you think it's not so much idiocy as not having the resources to run an operation like yours?

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[info]giantlaser
2004-09-17 11:37 am UTC (link)
Not really, no. Any company that can operate in the U.A.E. with expatriate American and British employees can afford the minimum of security it takes to operate here.

The average salary of American office worker in Iraq is approximately $5000 / month cash. The average salary of a Kurdish guard is $150 / month cash. Incidentals like weapons and ammo are cheap - $150 for an AK-47, $0.50 per bullet.

However, doing things this way requires that you understand what it takes to operate in Iraq, including doing things "the Iraqi way". Which most companies here completely fail to do. At their peril.

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[info]grumpy_sysadmin
2004-09-17 04:23 pm UTC (link)
Leaving the building, at night, unarmed, to fix a generator mysteriously on the fritz when your guard mysteriously didn't show up? I think that's idiocy. These guys watched one two many war/horror movies and think that's the way reality is.

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[info]jjustj
2004-09-17 11:24 am UTC (link)
I feel safer in my Baghdad home than I did living in San Francisco.

That statement chills me.

Mostly because I'm only 40 miles from San Francisco.

Maybe I'll move.

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[info]jedipussytricks
2004-09-17 03:34 pm UTC (link)
You must realize he didn't live in the best of neighborhoods in San Francisco. My neighborhood is relatively safe. We lock the door when no one is home, and there are bars on the front ground floor windows, but the bars are relics from a time past. There are no bars on the door anymore. The only thing I worry about is my car, and as long as there's nothing in it, I rest at ease in this neighborhood.

In [info]giantlaser's old neighborhood, you can feel the sketchy just walking down the street.

At 40 miles, I think you're pretty safe from San Francisco crime.

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[info]jjustj
2004-09-18 10:00 pm UTC (link)
I feel pretty safe from Baghdad kidnappings here, too.

I suppose I should thank Mr. Ashcroft and Mr. Ridge.

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[info]lhoriman
2004-09-17 05:19 pm UTC (link)
I doubt Tyler intended that to be taken quite so literally.

You may be reasonably protected from abduction, but here in SF we don't lose cars to IEDs and random sniper fire is rare enough to make headlines.

Are you at all afraid that "hard target" also correlates with "high profile target"?

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[info]giantlaser
2004-09-17 10:08 pm UTC (link)
True, I didn't intend for that. But I couldn't slip in "in the San Francisco Mission-district ghetto" and make it sound as good. :) Certainly living outside the urban jungle area is safer than living here.

Also, we don't get sniper fire in Baghdad. Snipers are the #1 priority for US forces. Anyone seen with any scoped weapon is shot on sight, unwarned - a policy I agree with. But we certainly get IEDs and mortars on a daily basis.

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[info]jedipussytricks
2004-09-17 04:02 pm UTC (link)
I was more concerned with the three headless bodies found near a road north of Baghdad, myself. I remembered you saying something about approaching from the north, but couldn't remember if that was what you were going to do or what you were avoiding. But I was comforted that they didn't say any of them was female; they'll usually point such things out. In situations like that, male seems to be the default gender.

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[info]giantlaser
2004-09-17 10:10 pm UTC (link)
A beheaded female would raise an alarm unlike any heard thus far. Believe me, the whole world would know.

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I still don't get it
[info]fredx
2004-09-22 01:07 am UTC (link)
What are you doing there? Honestly, this can't be about the money. Is it about adventure, at the cost of supporting the US military?

Sure, you take far better precautions than other folks who get kidnapped and murdered. But you do realize it's simply an odds game, right? The odds of your death are lower than these others, but they are still very significant. Which brings me back to my question: why are you risking your life in support of the US military's occupation of Iraq?

I looked at Al Jazeera this morning: http://english.aljazeera.net/ I'm worried that we may see YOUR photo on that web page.

Why are you doing this?

Sorry to not be a "yes" friend to support you in your blog...

- Fred

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Re: I still don't get it
[info]giantlaser
2004-09-22 01:55 am UTC (link)
You know me better than to believe I want "yes friends", Fred.

Take a look at the faces in my gallery:

http://www.tolaris.com/gallery

Click on "Iraq", and "Tyler's Company". How many Americans do you see? I'm one of two in my company. With two Kurdish-UK (formerly Iraqi) bosses above me, and 55 Iraqi nationals working with or for me.

Yes, we sell to American companies. And anyone else who wants to pay us. Including Iraqis, which accounts for 40% of our business right now. 60% if you count those projects funded by American interests but benefitting Iraqis locally (USAID-provided internet centers, etc).

That's part of why I'm here. That's part of why I came back after a month off, certainly. The money helps, and I have debts to pay. But there's more to it than that. We have friends here. And a nice home. And when the bullets aren't flying, a pretty good life overall. And this company helps a lot of people now - either with jobs or with internet. When the company is ready to stand without me, I'll go. But not now.

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Re: I still don't get it
[info]gjunell
2004-09-22 09:50 am UTC (link)
You should talk, Fred! Getting on a boat with Major Asshole and floating to mexico is more dangerous than cleaning your ear with an ice pick!

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Ooookkaaayyy...
[info]mand_a_lion
2004-09-22 04:53 pm UTC (link)
I was going through some pictures the other day of a Halloween party a few years back. I came across one of you and pondered..."I wonder what Tyler's doing now...last I heard, he was in San Fran or working for Greenpeace." Realizing that you were obviously on the "friends" list of several of my friends, I popped over to your journal. So you're obviously not in SF...

I spent the last, oh, four hours catching up with your adventures. Two things: write a book, be safe.

I look forward to your future posts. You echo the words of some of my military friends.

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